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Jarogers2001 at 09:34, 29 October 2008

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	I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.		I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.
	Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)		Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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	I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.		I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.
	Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)		Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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	I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.		I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.
	Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)		Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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	Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)		Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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	500 years ago, nobody would have appreciated our urban sprawls. They happened anyways. Likely the same situation will apply to altering the moon. - [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 09:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)		500 years ago, nobody would have appreciated our urban sprawls. They happened anyways. Likely the same situation will apply to altering the moon. - [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 09:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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		+	I don't like the idea of terraforming Luna because it would lose its role s a key industrial centre.
		+	Fully "paraforming" is something that I doubt is possible and it would also ruin Luna's economy.
		+	I see small domes built built in craters, here and there. Medium term Luna will stay industrial.
		+	Short-medium term terraforming efforts spent on Mars will be worth more, IMO. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 20:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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−	500 years ago, nobody would have appreciated our urban sprawls. They happened anyways. Likely the same situation will apply to altering the moon. - [[User:~~67.63.172.166~~\|~~67.63.172.166~~]] 09:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)	+	500 years ago, nobody would have appreciated our urban sprawls. They happened anyways. Likely the same situation will apply to altering the moon. - [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 09:34, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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		+	500 years ago, nobody would have appreciated our urban sprawls. They happened anyways. Likely the same situation will apply to altering the moon. - [[User:67.63.172.166\|67.63.172.166]] 09:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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 [[User:T.Neo|T.Neo]] 07:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
-MikeD-1 says, "I wouldn't be in favor of terraforming the surface of Luna"
+Discussion from the MOO:
+MikeD-1 says, "I wouldn't be in favor of terraforming the surface of Luna"<br>
-dcarson says, "some of Schlock Mercanary is set on a terraformed Luna"
+dcarson says, "some of Schlock Mercanary is set on a terraformed Luna"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "my obections are several, some are actually scientific"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "my obections are several, some are actually scientific"
+MikeD-1 says, "and at least one has to do with maintaining a certain aesthetic"<br>
+You say, "Yeah, the people back on earth won't like that moldy green look"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "and at least one has to do with maintaining a certain aesthetic"
+MikeD-1 says, "now I don't mind if they can find a way to terraform the far side without effecting the nearside"<br>
+You say, "or strip mine it"<br>
-You say, "Yeah, the people back on earth won't like that moldy green look"
+You say, "giving the man in the moon a black eye would be very bad press"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "stripmining would not alter the appearance appreciably, certainly not to the naked eye"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "now I don't mind if they can find a way to terraform the far side without effecting the nearside"
+dcarson says, "I have seen one proposal to basically build big glass hexagons so you terrarome a few square miles at a time"<br>
+You say, "how about 100 years of strip mining?"<br>
-You say, "or strip mine it"
+You say, "the man in the moon would at least get a giant zit scar"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "heh, nah, 1000 years _might_ be visible to the naked eye"<br>
-You say, "giving the man in the moon a black eye would be very bad press"
+You say, "what about binoculars?"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "even with binoculars or a decent telescope you can't see features less than about a mile accross"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "stripmining would not alter the appearance appreciably, certainly not to the naked eye"
+You say, "didn't mr. carson just say something about a few square miles?"<br>
+You say, "oh, that was terraforming"<br>
-dcarson says, "I have seen one proposal to basically build big glass hexagons so you terrarome a few square miles at a time"
+MikeD-1 says, "yes, and they could be built farside"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "terraforming the whole of Luna would change the appearance and most importantly would be very high maintenance due to atmospheric leakage"<br>
-You say, "how about 100 years of strip mining?"
+MikeD-1 says, "a couple of square miles would be hard to see from earth without optical aids"<br>
+dcarson says, "I've seen estimates of 50-100K years for the atmosphere to be OK"<br>
-You say, "the man in the moon would at least get a giant zit scar"
+You say, "we'll have mucked up the earth's atmosphere by THEN"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "yes, I've seen some interesting estimates for that too Dana, I seem to recall Greg estimating it would be safe for 10k years due to it's atmosphere being in the same orbit around earth, I believe he did suggest topping it up periordically to keep it consistent though"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "heh, nah, 1000 years _might_ be visible to the naked eye"
+dcarson says, "http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20001203.html"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "Barring our downfall, it will eventually be terraformed, there's no doubt about that. But I wouldn't support doing it at this point in time, that's a project for several generations down the line."<br>
-You say, "what about binoculars?"
+dcarson says, "http://www.amazon.ca/Terraforming-Creating-Habitable-Martin-Beech/dp/0387097953"<br>
+You say, "stick it on the terraforming page as an external reference"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "even with binoculars or a decent telescope you can't see features less than about a mile accross"
+MikeD-1 says, "It's not like Venus, there we'd have to do some terraforming just to be able to land. But Luna and Mars we can build infrastructure on and terraform from onsite"<br>
+dcarson says, "he also has one called Rejuvenating the Sun and Avoiding Other Global Catastrophes"<br>
-You say, "didn't mr. carson just say something about a few square miles?"
+You say, "depends... in Spin, they did <nowiki>Mars</nowiki> all by remote control, because that was the only way to do it"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "there were proposals for partially terraforming Venus as far back as the 70s"<br>
-You say, "oh, that was terraforming"
+dcarson says, "the other book on that topic is Terraforming: Engineering Planetary Environments  by Fogg"<br>
+You say, "what if you just seeded venus's atmosphere with some mold?"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "yes, and they could be built farside"
+dcarson says, "it would vaporize in the heat and go back to being CO2"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "the most promising proposals were expected to take about 200 years just to make it possible for us to land there, about 100-150 years to be able to send robotic missions"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "terraforming the whole of Luna would change the appearance and most importantly would be very high maintenance due to atmospheric leakage"
+You say, "the high atmosphere? above the clouds?"<br>
+dcarson says, "the other book on that topic is Terraforming: Engineering Planetary Environments  by Fogg"<br>
-MikeD-1 says, "a couple of square miles would be hard to see from earth without optical aids"
+dcarson says, "and bookfinder.com has a copy for only $353.98"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "the proposals did rely on biological aids"<br>
-dcarson says, "I've seen estimates of 50-100K years for the atmosphere to be OK"
+dcarson says, "at some point it will fall lower"<br>
+MikeD-1 says, "that's why it would take about 200 years, we'd have to keep topping up the enzymes"<br>
-You say, "we'll have mucked up the earth's atmosphere by THEN"
+MikeD-1 says, "oh, and that 200 years would only make it barely possible to send manned missions, we'd still need ev suits"<br>
 [[User:Miros1|Rose/Miros]] 08:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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	Many people, including me, would enjoy a blue-green Moon, marbled with white clouds and a cyan atmosphere fading into space. It would be so bright, at full moon one might be able to see full color!		Many people, including me, would enjoy a blue-green Moon, marbled with white clouds and a cyan atmosphere fading into space. It would be so bright, at full moon one might be able to see full color!
	[[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 07:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)		[[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 07:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "I wouldn't be in favor of terraforming the surface of Luna"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "some of Schlock Mercanary is set on a terraformed Luna"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "my obections are several, some are actually scientific"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "and at least one has to do with maintaining a certain aesthetic"
		+
		+	You say, "Yeah, the people back on earth won't like that moldy green look"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "now I don't mind if they can find a way to terraform the far side without effecting the nearside"
		+
		+	You say, "or strip mine it"
		+
		+	You say, "giving the man in the moon a black eye would be very bad press"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "stripmining would not alter the appearance appreciably, certainly not to the naked eye"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "I have seen one proposal to basically build big glass hexagons so you terrarome a few square miles at a time"
		+
		+	You say, "how about 100 years of strip mining?"
		+
		+	You say, "the man in the moon would at least get a giant zit scar"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "heh, nah, 1000 years _might_ be visible to the naked eye"
		+
		+	You say, "what about binoculars?"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "even with binoculars or a decent telescope you can't see features less than about a mile accross"
		+
		+	You say, "didn't mr. carson just say something about a few square miles?"
		+
		+	You say, "oh, that was terraforming"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "yes, and they could be built farside"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "terraforming the whole of Luna would change the appearance and most importantly would be very high maintenance due to atmospheric leakage"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "a couple of square miles would be hard to see from earth without optical aids"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "I've seen estimates of 50-100K years for the atmosphere to be OK"
		+
		+	You say, "we'll have mucked up the earth's atmosphere by THEN"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "yes, I've seen some interesting estimates for that too Dana, I seem to recall Greg estimating it would be safe for 10k years due to it's atmosphere being in the same orbit around earth, I believe he did suggest topping it up periordically to keep it consistent though"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20001203.html"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "Barring our downfall, it will eventually be terraformed, there's no doubt about that. But I wouldn't support doing it at this point in time, that's a project for several generations down the line."
		+
		+	dcarson says, "http://www.amazon.ca/Terraforming-Creating-Habitable-Martin-Beech/dp/0387097953"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "need to add that to my wish list"
		+
		+	You say, "stick it on the terraforming page as an external reference"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "It's not like Venus, there we'd have to do some terraforming just to be able to land. But Luna and Mars we can build infrastructure on and terraform from onsite"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "he also has one called Rejuvenating the Sun and Avoiding Other Global Catastrophes"
		+
		+	You say, "depends... in Spin, they did it all by remote control, because that was the only way to do it"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "there were proposals for partially terraforming Venus as far back as the 70s"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "the other book on that topic is Terraforming: Engineering Planetary Environments by Fogg"
		+
		+	You say, "what if you just seeded venus's atmosphere with some mold?"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "it would vaporize in the heat and go back to being CO2"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "the most promising proposals were expected to take about 200 years just to make it possible for us to land there, about 100-150 years to be able to send robotic missions"
		+
		+	You say, "the high atmosphere? above the clouds?"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "the other book on that topic is Terraforming: Engineering Planetary Environments by Fogg"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "and bookfinder.com has a copy for only $353.98"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "the proposals did rely on biological aids"
		+
		+	dcarson says, "at some point it will fall lower"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "that's why it would take about 200 years, we'd have to keep topping up the enzymes"
		+
		+	MikeD-1 says, "oh, and that 200 years would only make it barely possible to send manned missions, we'd still need ev suits"
		+
		+	[[User:Miros1\|Rose/Miros]] 08:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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	Ahem, the people back on Earth might not appreciate that moldy green look... [[User:Miros1\|Rose/Miros]] 04:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)		Ahem, the people back on Earth might not appreciate that moldy green look... [[User:Miros1\|Rose/Miros]] 04:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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		+	Many people, including me, would enjoy a blue-green Moon, marbled with white clouds and a cyan atmosphere fading into space. It would be so bright, at full moon one might be able to see full color!
		+	[[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 07:25, 27 October 2008 (UTC)