Difference between revisions of "Talk:Luna-Mars Trade"

From Lunarpedia
Jump to: navigation, search
(talk)
Line 1: Line 1:
All of the processes necessary for Luna/Mars trade are not sketched in any great detail, but it seems worth considering.  If a mass accelerator can boost the supersonic landing Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle mentioned up to 1025 meters per second, then 49% of the take-off weight gets to orbit.--'''FARTHERRED'''11:28pm Central Standard Time 31 October 2008  
+
All of the processes necessary for Luna-Mars trade are not sketched in any great detail, but it seems worth considering.  If a mass accelerator can boost the supersonic landing Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle mentioned up to 1025 meters per second, then 49% of the take-off weight gets to orbit.--'''FARTHERRED'''11:28pm Central Standard Time 31 October 2008  
  
  
Line 12: Line 12:
 
:::If we disable it, we should also disable it for the seldom used GFDL namespace and the never used CC_Luna namespace, as they have teh same function as the main namespace, just not public domain. -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 18:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:::If we disable it, we should also disable it for the seldom used GFDL namespace and the never used CC_Luna namespace, as they have teh same function as the main namespace, just not public domain. -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 18:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::::I see no reason to disable it at this time. I intend to use sub-articles in the future. - [[User:Jarogers2001|Jarogers2001]] 03:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 
::::I see no reason to disable it at this time. I intend to use sub-articles in the future. - [[User:Jarogers2001|Jarogers2001]] 03:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 +
*Why should a Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle have wings and land supersonic?  The wings should allow the vehicle to kill its orbital velocity through aerodynamic drag when returning to Mars and lift from the wings should allow the vehicle to set down gently on a runway.  The orbital speed being considered is only about 40% faster than the SR-71 flew, and the Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle would only move through the atmosphere at that speed for a short time while reentering from orbit.  If the SR-71 could tolerate 2450 meters per second for thousands of miles of flight, a Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle should be able to tolerate flying at 3440 meters per second through Mars' upper atmosphere for a few minutes.  The vehicle would not move at orbital velocity when touching down on a runway, but it would still need to be supersonic to generate enough lift for a gentle landing.--[[User:Farred|Farred]] 02:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:47, 3 November 2008

All of the processes necessary for Luna-Mars trade are not sketched in any great detail, but it seems worth considering. If a mass accelerator can boost the supersonic landing Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle mentioned up to 1025 meters per second, then 49% of the take-off weight gets to orbit.--FARTHERRED11:28pm Central Standard Time 31 October 2008


Does the original creator realize that by inserting a slash in the article name, he has created a sub-article of Luna? - Jarogers2001 07:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Problems like that can be avoided if we disable subpages for mainspace articles. I believe Wikipedia has done this. However, it might be a better idea for Lunarpedia if we keep subpages for mainspace articles. In that case, I suggest moving the content to "Luna-Mars trade". T.Neo 07:41, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
Moving it was my thought as well. I rather like subpages. Any objections to a move? - Jarogers2001 16:14, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Aw shucks. It says right here on my Wiki Reference Card not to use slash, plus sign, number sign, or any of a number of kinds of brackets in a title. I did not have the reference card with me at a distant location but probably would not have consulted it anyway. This is one way to learn. I hope it is not too much trouble to move the article.--Farred 16:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
It can be moved just like any other article. There is no additional procedure. - Jarogers2001 03:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
If we disable it, we should also disable it for the seldom used GFDL namespace and the never used CC_Luna namespace, as they have teh same function as the main namespace, just not public domain. -- Strangelv 18:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I see no reason to disable it at this time. I intend to use sub-articles in the future. - Jarogers2001 03:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
  • Why should a Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle have wings and land supersonic? The wings should allow the vehicle to kill its orbital velocity through aerodynamic drag when returning to Mars and lift from the wings should allow the vehicle to set down gently on a runway. The orbital speed being considered is only about 40% faster than the SR-71 flew, and the Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle would only move through the atmosphere at that speed for a short time while reentering from orbit. If the SR-71 could tolerate 2450 meters per second for thousands of miles of flight, a Mars to low Mars orbit vehicle should be able to tolerate flying at 3440 meters per second through Mars' upper atmosphere for a few minutes. The vehicle would not move at orbital velocity when touching down on a runway, but it would still need to be supersonic to generate enough lift for a gentle landing.--Farred 02:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)