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Welcome to Lunarpedia!  Don't worry about proofreading.  If you've created a mess, just add the {<B></B>{Cleanup}<B></B>} tag.  -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 03:02, 3 March 2007 (PST)
 
Welcome to Lunarpedia!  Don't worry about proofreading.  If you've created a mess, just add the {<B></B>{Cleanup}<B></B>} tag.  -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 03:02, 3 March 2007 (PST)
  
== Difficulties getting started ==
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Now we know who the seinsble one is here. Great post!
  
Thank you for the fast welcome.
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Wham bam thank you, ma’am, my qsuetions are answered!
  
I am having a great deal of difficulty getting startedI have managed to input a page, "People on the Moon", but it is not linked to anything.
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==Scientifiction dot org, Marspedia dot org, and 'Unnamed Space Dictionary Wiki'==
--[[User:Jriley|Jriley]] 05:19, 3 March 2007 (PST)
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I can't remember if I told you about Thursday Space Chat in NSS MOO (two moves from the Commons in ASI MOO -- NSS then W)It has often served as the de facto board for Lunarpedia (the Moon Society Board of Directors and Leadership Committee have been interested, but have been very hands-off, possibly fearful of harming the promising looking goose).
  
:Thank you for noting your difficulties.  I'm presently working on a quick and dirty formatting guide. -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 05:54, 3 March 2007 (PST)
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It was decided there this evening to move fiction content from Lunarpedia to a different wiki specifically designed for the purpose.  The name we picked was scientifiction dot org which is now set up and readyWhile I plan on having the wiki fully integrated with Lunarpedia, Marspedia, and a probable dictionary wiki we couldn't come up with a satisfactory name for (plus a likely general space wiki, especially if the NSS wants to join in the fun), the user databases will be separate, so you'll need to set up an account in each one, especially scientifiction.  As of when I type this there's just me and WikiSysop, an account only really to be used to set up the first bureaucrat/sysop and to perform certain functions at a system maintenance level that would be performed by Mike or Dana.
  
== Creative Commons ==
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I'd jump right in, but I'm mostly asleepThe front page is locked against unregistered users and points here, but other than that it's a clean slate ready for tailoring.
Mike wanted me to double-check that you knew that the Creative Commons namespace attributes Lunarpedia, not any of the contributors (I described the problem as the 150 contributors problem -- the required attribution could be longer than the used portion of the article).  You're actually the first person to use the namespaceNone of the people who insisted we needed it have yet contributed to Lunarpedia... -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 05:54, 3 March 2007 (PST)
 
  
:Right now, I do not know what you are talking about.  For example, I am not familiar with the term Creative Commons namespace.
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Note that the question of where to draw the line on adult situations is still not definitively answered.
  
:Learning technical processes, like working a wiki, is an exponential process.  You must start by making incredibly simple baby steps available to the newbie.  Very soon, sometimes within hours, they will work up the exponential learning curve and often surpass their teachers.  A teaching aid of this type is not easy to design and write. I have written such aids and could write one for Lunarpedia if necessary.
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It's probably a good idea to avoid listing or linking to marspedia or scientifiction anywhere until the sites are ready to show up in search engines.  
  
:I assure you that my expectation is that anything posted to a wiki is given to the entire world free for nothing.  In fact that is the whole point.
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-- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 21:43, 8 March 2007 (PST)
  
:I have gotten two books published.  Neither sold. I found the whole copy right effort an exercise in futility.  I am out of the book writing business.  I think it is obsolete anyway.
 
  
:What I am trying to do right now is move over to Wiki writingThis form seems to fit my entire history of communal work very well. (Peace, love, and all that hippy s**t).
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I certainly recognize the right of a board to bring some order to this wikiComplete chaos is useless. However, I think it is way too early to split Lunarpedia.
  
:Thanks again for your prompt reply.
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The stories list I have been working is not a general discussion of Science Fiction.  The stories are very specific to building a lunar settlement.  Current SF is either Star War's with swords and unnecessary wars, or very dark mind games between humans and machines.  It has no place for simply studying the idea of people living on the Moon.  
  
:--[[User:207.114.17.31|207.114.17.31]] 08:27, 3 March 2007 (PST)
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The story idea is very much an out-of-box experiment. As such, it has only a very small chance of success. I have not yet got one comment on an actual story, but it is early days yet.
  
::By default, everything here is released to the public domain (or already in the public domain) -- that is, without any copyright protection at allIf that is how you want your article released, then it should simply be 'People on the Moon‎', or http://lunarpedia.org/index.php?title=People on the Moon -- to put in into a category, for example Urban Planning, add at the bottom of the article '[<B></B>[Category:Urban Planning]<B></B>]'You can also add any additional categories that may be appropriate.
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I may have to add one hundred ideas to Lunarpedia to get just one that worksAfter that I will probably have to only add fiftyThe odd thing is that just two or three really good ideas could get us back to the moon.
  
::The 'CC_Lunar:' prefix isn't a category, it's a 'namespace' separate from where your article would be otherwise that exists for different terms of useWhen you put it there we assumed you meant to put it there to prevent its release into the public domain.
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For the time being I will forge aheadI will depend on you to let me know when I should cool my jets.
  
::Note that Myself, Mike, and Charles are in the Moon Society MOO and one of us may be able to answer your questions in real timeThere is a java client available to get there at http://moo.asi.org -- or you can telnet to moo.asi.org port 7777 and type in 'connect guest' there.
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"I have a head full of ideas, and they are driving me insane." -- Bob Dylan
  
::Again, I'm sorry for your confusion, and anything we can work out to make it clearer for other people in the future that you can help with would be greatly appreciated along with your contributions.
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: Tom, it looks like Scientification.org is basically up and running.  It would be great if you could post fiction there.  Thanks.[[User:Cfrjlr|Charles F. Radley]] 14:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
  
::-- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 08:42, 3 March 2007 (PST)
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I still cannot find a working link to Scientification.org.
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--[[User:Jriley|Jriley]] 20:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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:Sorry, my error, it is  [[Scientifiction.org]] --- http://Scientifiction.org  You will also notice the link in the left hand pane of every page on Lunarpedia  :-)  [[User:Cfrjlr|Charles F. Radley]] 21:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
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Welcome to Lunarpedia!.  I seem to be running a bit behind lately.  Looking forward to working with you.  [[User:Jarogers2001|Jarogers2001]] 18:58, 9 March 2007 (PST)
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==[[Communication]] Merge Proposal==
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I suggest to merge the page [[Communication]] with [[Earthside Communication]], they cover identical subect matter. [[User:Cfrjlr|Charles F. Radley]] 18:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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==Featured Article==
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I've merged Volatile Scavenging with [[Volatiles]], cleaned it up a little and it is now featured on the front page.  Good work, Tom! - [[User:Jarogers2001|Jarogers2001]] 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
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== TlaOknrVmRiNRQ ==
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Thanks for shiarng. What a pleasure to read!
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==See <nowiki>[[Symbiotes]]</nowiki> talk page==
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In case you did not see the [[Talk:Symbiotes]] page, this is to let you know that I am considering deleting files that you uploaded.  Still it is good that you have taken interest in writing for Lunarpedia.  [[User:Farred|Farred]] 19:05, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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== Moon related science fiction ==
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Dear Tom,
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I am pleased to get actual moon related text added to Lunarpedia.  I think you might consider it our website.  You seem to be a contributor in good standing.  Are you not a member of the Moon Society too?  Anyway, advertising moon related science fiction falls right into the desired topic categories.  Do you need help to find the right category to put an article in or do you want to create a category? 
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Science fiction does not need to match exactly my vision of future space colonization, some other vision that will actually occur, or even any possible vision of space colonization to draw the interest of people to space colonization.  It needs to be interesting, like ''The Moon is a Harsh Mistress''. 
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Buy-in is not always beneficial to our cause.  People can buy in to big rockets and Earth supported exploration to the extent that they want to prevent industry in space as a competing idea.  People can buy into a low-tech colony on Mars of the style of the American cowboy era west and oppose more high-tech industry simply because it is high-tech.  I cannot be sure that I have the best idea for starting a colony.  I think people should be open minded and look for the ideas with the best merit but I will argue for what I think is best until convinced otherwise.  If I could direct the budget of NASA independently for twenty years, I think I could put us on the right road to establishing a profit making colony on the moon or I would direct the exploration, research, and development that would show that my vision is not practical at this time.  However, even the head of NASA cannot direct the budget independently.  The interference of congress with all the political considerations they are swayed by make it doubtful if there will ever be profitable mining of the moon.  Such is life.  Your science fiction might help.  Space colonization related science fiction might help even if it is set in a future long past the first moon colonies.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 05:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 22:20, 18 August 2013

Welcome Tom. Charles F. Radley 19:30, 2 March 2007 (PST)


Welcome to Lunarpedia! Don't worry about proofreading. If you've created a mess, just add the {{Cleanup}} tag. -- Strangelv 03:02, 3 March 2007 (PST)

Now we know who the seinsble one is here. Great post!

Wham bam thank you, ma’am, my qsuetions are answered!

Scientifiction dot org, Marspedia dot org, and 'Unnamed Space Dictionary Wiki'

I can't remember if I told you about Thursday Space Chat in NSS MOO (two moves from the Commons in ASI MOO -- NSS then W). It has often served as the de facto board for Lunarpedia (the Moon Society Board of Directors and Leadership Committee have been interested, but have been very hands-off, possibly fearful of harming the promising looking goose).

It was decided there this evening to move fiction content from Lunarpedia to a different wiki specifically designed for the purpose. The name we picked was scientifiction dot org which is now set up and ready. While I plan on having the wiki fully integrated with Lunarpedia, Marspedia, and a probable dictionary wiki we couldn't come up with a satisfactory name for (plus a likely general space wiki, especially if the NSS wants to join in the fun), the user databases will be separate, so you'll need to set up an account in each one, especially scientifiction. As of when I type this there's just me and WikiSysop, an account only really to be used to set up the first bureaucrat/sysop and to perform certain functions at a system maintenance level that would be performed by Mike or Dana.

I'd jump right in, but I'm mostly asleep. The front page is locked against unregistered users and points here, but other than that it's a clean slate ready for tailoring.

Note that the question of where to draw the line on adult situations is still not definitively answered.

It's probably a good idea to avoid listing or linking to marspedia or scientifiction anywhere until the sites are ready to show up in search engines.

-- Strangelv 21:43, 8 March 2007 (PST)


I certainly recognize the right of a board to bring some order to this wiki. Complete chaos is useless. However, I think it is way too early to split Lunarpedia.

The stories list I have been working is not a general discussion of Science Fiction. The stories are very specific to building a lunar settlement. Current SF is either Star War's with swords and unnecessary wars, or very dark mind games between humans and machines. It has no place for simply studying the idea of people living on the Moon.

The story idea is very much an out-of-box experiment. As such, it has only a very small chance of success. I have not yet got one comment on an actual story, but it is early days yet.

I may have to add one hundred ideas to Lunarpedia to get just one that works. After that I will probably have to only add fifty. The odd thing is that just two or three really good ideas could get us back to the moon.

For the time being I will forge ahead. I will depend on you to let me know when I should cool my jets.

"I have a head full of ideas, and they are driving me insane." -- Bob Dylan

Tom, it looks like Scientification.org is basically up and running. It would be great if you could post fiction there. Thanks.Charles F. Radley 14:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I still cannot find a working link to Scientification.org.

--Jriley 20:34, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, my error, it is Scientifiction.org --- http://Scientifiction.org You will also notice the link in the left hand pane of every page on Lunarpedia :-) Charles F. Radley 21:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Lunarpedia!. I seem to be running a bit behind lately. Looking forward to working with you. Jarogers2001 18:58, 9 March 2007 (PST)


Communication Merge Proposal

I suggest to merge the page Communication with Earthside Communication, they cover identical subect matter. Charles F. Radley 18:15, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Featured Article

I've merged Volatile Scavenging with Volatiles, cleaned it up a little and it is now featured on the front page. Good work, Tom! - Jarogers2001 13:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

TlaOknrVmRiNRQ

Thanks for shiarng. What a pleasure to read!

See [[Symbiotes]] talk page

In case you did not see the Talk:Symbiotes page, this is to let you know that I am considering deleting files that you uploaded. Still it is good that you have taken interest in writing for Lunarpedia. Farred 19:05, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Moon related science fiction

Dear Tom,

I am pleased to get actual moon related text added to Lunarpedia. I think you might consider it our website. You seem to be a contributor in good standing. Are you not a member of the Moon Society too? Anyway, advertising moon related science fiction falls right into the desired topic categories. Do you need help to find the right category to put an article in or do you want to create a category?


Science fiction does not need to match exactly my vision of future space colonization, some other vision that will actually occur, or even any possible vision of space colonization to draw the interest of people to space colonization. It needs to be interesting, like The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.


Buy-in is not always beneficial to our cause. People can buy in to big rockets and Earth supported exploration to the extent that they want to prevent industry in space as a competing idea. People can buy into a low-tech colony on Mars of the style of the American cowboy era west and oppose more high-tech industry simply because it is high-tech. I cannot be sure that I have the best idea for starting a colony. I think people should be open minded and look for the ideas with the best merit but I will argue for what I think is best until convinced otherwise. If I could direct the budget of NASA independently for twenty years, I think I could put us on the right road to establishing a profit making colony on the moon or I would direct the exploration, research, and development that would show that my vision is not practical at this time. However, even the head of NASA cannot direct the budget independently. The interference of congress with all the political considerations they are swayed by make it doubtful if there will ever be profitable mining of the moon. Such is life. Your science fiction might help. Space colonization related science fiction might help even if it is set in a future long past the first moon colonies. - Farred 05:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)